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This page contains answers to common questions pertaining to Installation and Setup.

 

bulletIs it OK to move the ComsData folder that is on our server on a LAN?
bulletWhat format is the ComsData actually stored in?
bulletHow can I re-direct the data location for the COMS?
bulletHow do I install the updates I download from this support forum?
bulletIf I just received the CD should I still download the update?
bulletCan I still use my old COMS v.5.x while I become acquainted with the new COMS 8.x?
bulletCan I restore my old COMS v.5.x files into the new COMS 8.x?
bulletWhat can I do to speed up the access of data on my LAN or on my single stand alone computer?
bulletCan you give some general advice on how to setup the best Network or LAN?
bulletDo you think I am crazy if I don't use a battery backup? It's also called a UPS.
bulletOur LAN is slow, how do I activate the special People or Giving "People Lookup List" to speed this up?
bulletCan I Activate or Deactivate the Web Features of the COMS program?
bulletHow Do I Move the COMS version 8.x to a new Computer?
bulletWindows 8 and Windows 7 and Vista Special Installation Issues

   

Moving data on a LAN - Is it OK to move the ComsData folder that is on a LAN?

The ComsData location is stored in the Windows Registry of each workstation and this is controlled by the Windows operating system - and not the application. This is required in order for a program to be considered 'Windows 2000/XP Logo compliant.' In other words, this is the way that Windows expects to find path locations. The way this all works is this: using Windows Explorer (or any other network tool) you will 'move' the ComsData folder to anywhere you wish. Then, the next time you start a workstation - that workstation will get a re-install dialog that simply allows the user to re-select the new location of the ComsData folder. If the user does not select a ComsData folder that does contains certain required files, he will not be allowed to proceed - he can only correct this condition or exit the application. I would suggest if the administrator moves the ComsData folder that he be the one that notifies the user of this change, or perhaps even re-starts each of these workstations himself. Either way, it will be difficult for a user to select an incorrect folder - unless you have multiple copies of ComsData setting around on computers (which is not a good idea anyway).

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What format is the ComsData  actually stored in?

The current version of the COMS ships using a VFP 7-8-9  file table structure. Code is already in place for a future upgrade to also use SQL 2000-2003, etc.

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How can I re-direct the data location for the COMS?

Just 'move' the ComsData folder to the new location (you can do this with Windows Explorer - but do NOT put this folder in the ComsWin folder!!!). Then, the next time you start the COMS v.8.x it will ask you for that new location.

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How do I install the updates I download from this support forum?

First of all, make sure you exit the COMS program if it is running. 

Although you can select Open instead of Save when you click on the Setup.exe file to download, we recommend you do the following instead.

Download the Setup.exe to your Desktop and run the Setup.exe form there by double-clicking on it. It will over-write necessary information, but not your data. After the Setup.exe has been run, you can right-click on it and delete it - or just leave it on your Desktop (if you leave the Setup.exe on your Desktop please remember you will be replacing it the next time you download another Setup.exe update - which is OK).

If you have a multi license from us - remember you need to run the Setup.exe on each workstation (or computer) . Also, do not EVER save the Setup.exe to the ComsWin folder.

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If I just received the CD should I still download the update?

Maybe, as the update here is always the latest version. However, you can check the version that you installed at anytime by pulling down Help... and selecting About. If the version number is the same there as the update here, there is no reason to download and install the update.

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Can I still use my old COMS v.5.x while I become acquainted with the new COMS 8.x?

Yes, you may and you should use the old COMS 5.x till you are familiar and comfortable with the new COMS - there is no time limit. Also, I would download the updates whenever they are posted here in this support forum as they usually contain enhancements which made the software easier to use.

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Can I restore my old COMS v.5.x into the new COMS 8.x?

You don't 'restore' old v.5.5 data into the new COMS version 8.x, but rather 'convert' it. The old data needs to be in a folder that the new COMS v.8.x can find (normally off a root HD folder) for this to happen. If you do NOT have your old v.5.5 data on the new computer, you need to email Specialty Software with a subject line of your serial# and in the body of the email with a note that you need to move old files to a new computer so you can convert them. Fortunately, the new program would not allow you to restore those old v.5.5 files, or it would have corrupted your new data.

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What can I do to speed up the access of data on my LAN or on my single stand alone computer?

Although this section was initially written to deal with LAN issues, items 1 & 2 also apply to a regular single stand alone computer that is not connected to a LAN.  If you are happy with the performance of your computer and the way it is accessing data, then you can just ignore this section. Most single stand along computer users can just ignore this section.

Slow computer data access makes your forms open slower, and also can dramatically effect they way the Search Forms "search" for your data (example: when you type in SMITH you want it to quickly go to the first Smith). Following the steps outlined in this section can dramatically help in this. If you are on a LAN, you will might have to bring in a professional LAN person, as most churches do not have a qualified person on staff.

Accessing data over a LAN can be 4 to 5 times slower than accessing data from a local hard drive (because the data has to be moved across your LAN wire) - but you don't normally notice this as its so fast anyway. However, there are some things that help your LAN perform much faster and more efficient. We realize this can be a real problem in a local church situation as most churches do not have a knowledgeable System Administrator on staff. Hopefully the following suggestions can help you setup your LAN correctly, or at least direct the professional network person who you bring in to assist you:

  1. Big Issue! Are you using Virus Software - in particular Norton's? If you always have it set for "auto protect" on,  this can slow down a networked situation by 2 to 3 times but now days Virus protection it is pretty much always required. Within Norton's, make sure you exclude the following extensions in the ComsData folder: .DBC, .DBT, .DBX, .DBF, .FPT, and .CDX.  In our in house test with Norton's, we found having it turned on to auto protect slowed down data access by 1,000% (ten fold!) - so excluding these files was the solution.  For detailed information on how to exclude these extensions,  click on this link from Microsoft  (notice this link talks about Visual FoxPro applications which the COMS program is. Also, do not follow the directions given in the link for Method 3 - or you will not be able to update your actual software. And, remember the main files you are excluding are in the ComsData folder whereas this link's example used a folder of K:\Data). Important! If you are not familiar with Norton's you might need your LAN professional or system administrator to help you do this for you.
  2. If you are always online, your Email client might also be checking for new mail in the background. You might consider turning this feature off. We have not verified this as a real problem in house because we do not use email this way. However, we know it can be in certain situations.
  3. Important Issue! Replace old 10 mbps Network Ethernet cards with newer 100 mbps ones. Also, with 10 machines using a full-duplex switch, at 100 Mbps might give you up to 200 times the performance of a 10 Mbps hub (assuming that all machines try to access the network at the same time). If you don't know what this all means, have your professional network person do this for you.
  4. Maybe an Issue! Some, but not all user's have had success with what is mentioned in this paragraph. Add the following Protocols to each workstation and server: For Windows XP make sure Nwlink is added. For Windows 2000, Windows Millennium, and Windows 98 make sure Netbeui is added. One way to verify this on a Windows XP and Windows 2000 computer is open up "Network and Dial-up Connections,' right click on the 'Local Area Connections' and select 'Properties.' If you don't see this file in the list, press 'Install' and then highlight 'Protocol' in the dialog that appeared. Once 'Protocol' is highlighted, press 'Add' and then select the Nwlink file if you are using Windows XP, or Netbeui for Windows 2000, Windows Millennium, and Windows 98. If you are using Windows Millennium or 98, the procedure will be somewhat similar (sorry - we no longer have this old type computers in use).
  5. This issue "might" speed up your LAN if you need to get every last ounce of performance out of it. On a peer-to-peer network where one computer is designated as the "server" you should take steps to ensure that computer is always the "master browser." This is a somewhat complicated procedure and you should bring in your professional LAN person to check this for you. Attention professional LAN person, click this to read up what you might need to do. Also, this link might also help you do this on a Windows 2000/XP machines.
  6. Major Big Issue! Install the COMS on each workstation! The default installation does do this, but we had a few users who were creative in this and installed the application on their server - and they were wrong in doing this! The only thing installed on the server is the ComsData folder, and perhaps the Visuals and MyReport folder - all this is explained in the COMS Must ReadMe! file found on your desktop. If your server is also a workstation, obviously you will then install the application on it as well.
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Can you give some general advice on how to setup the best Network or LAN?

The following is put together just as a guideline. We adapted this list from a friend who recently passed away.

Obviously you might not be able to implement all these features at once, but as you replace comportments this list  should help and will cut down on you spending additional consulting money with a  professional LAN person in  the future.

Present this short list to your professional LAN person when/if you bring him in for help in setting up your server.

If you are setting up a network using existing computers, try not to mix Win98 in your network.  Try to put those old Windows 98 and Windows Millennium systems out to pasture as soon as you can. Absolutely no Win95 under any conditions; the risks of a Win95 box acquiring the status of browse master for the peer-to-peer network is nasty. You certainly want the primary station hosting the data to be running Win2K of some flavor or XP Pro, and do it on an NTFS volume; with light app loading and a reliable disk system and a few registry hacks, and UPS's (battery backups) on each and every PC and network hub/router.

If you are buying all new computers, buy fast ones with 512k RAM, and Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP Pro. Windows 2000/2003 Server are OK as well.

Use solid NIC's (network Ethernet cards)- you don't need to spend a lot - NetGear, Intel and a number of other vendors sell 10/100 NIC's for under $30 each. You want a name brand model with a solid history. We have heard from many that the new Gigabit Ethernet are great, and substantially faster (this is what we will be buying ourselves from now own).

Several generations of backup:

  1. Daily backup Monday through Thursday - each on different media (in a new week, you can re-use the prior Monday - Thursday media if you wish).
  2. Friday backup on different media and save this for all Fridays in the Month (in a new month, you can re-use the Friday media if you wish, although some keep each week archived to CD or Tape or Diskette).
  3. Monthly Backup saved on different media throughout the year.
  4. Yearly backups.


Keep all the original CDs for the software locked in a desk somewhere, and if someone 'borrows' a CD to install the software, they check it out, like a library card.

 

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Do you think I am crazy if I don't use a battery backup? It's also called a UPS.

Well, put it this way: we haven't even thought of turning a computer on in our offices in over fifteen years unless they were plugged into a UPS. A UPS is the best protection  you can buy for your computer, and they cost around a hundred dollars. We only buy the ones made by APC and use them exclusively, as we have had trouble with the Tripp Lite ones. We work right through Florida thunderstorms without ever having a problem.

Also, I suspect the lady who just lost 8 months worth of data without a backup would probably tell you the same thing - especially as easy as making a backup of your data is.
 

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Our LAN is slow, how do I activate the special People or Giving "People Lookup List" to speed this up?.

Make sure you have done all the suggestions mentioned in the above FAQ titled What can I do to speed up the access of data on my LAN or
on my single stand alone computer?
, because if your LAN is slow is has nothing to do with the COMS for Windows software but is because of the way your LAN is setup.

However, we realize most churches do not have a professional LAN person on staff or even available. Because of this, we have included a special option which allows you to use a special Family Form and Giving Form People Lookup that will work fast even on a slow LAN (is does this by putting a small lookup copy of the People's names on your local hard drive in its temporary folder).

If your LAN is not slow, please do not do this. However, if you need to take advantage of this option, do the following on each workstation:

1-In the COMS program, pull down the Tools menu, and select Properties. Put a check in the section titled Lookup Form (in other words, check the line that says "Check only if the People Lookup List seems very slow." Then press OK to save this.

2-In the Family & People Form or in the Enter Giving Form, press the key combination of Alt+L to use this new form.

3-If you add new People into the People Form, they will NOT appear in this special lookup list until you press the Requery button on the Family & People Form, and also in the Enter Giving Form. The Requery button is the little push button that has binoculars as its icon. When you press the Requery button, it will rebuild this special list for you, and remove People who have been deleted or added. You can press this button as often as you wish. Pressing the Requery button means this table never needs to be Re-indexed or Packed.

However, if this table ever gets damaged due to a hard drive issue, power outage, etc., you might have difficulty opening the Family & People Form, and also the Enter Giving Form. This can be easily corrected. Pull down the Tools menu and select Maintenance Procedures. Once the Maintenance Procedures Form is open, press the Re-initialize tab, and you will then be able to Re-build this lookup table.

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Can I Activate or Deactivate the Web Features of the COMS program?

Yes you can. Pull down Tools... Properties..... Web Settings.

From this site you can turn off the online background screen that is pulled from our web site. Select Never to make the background of the COMS program appear blank.

Please note that if you deactivate the web features of the COMS You will also disable special enhancements which are being made to the software that are only available to those who have a consistent connection to the web. Some of these enhancements include a quick click to go to this Club web site for help with technical issues and downloads. We also use this feature to post information about updates/upgrades, and to also post critical items such as security items that might be floating around in cyber land.

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How Do I Move the COMS version 8.x to a new Computer?

In the computer that currently has your Data, start the COMS program.  Pull down the Tools menu and select the Maintenance option. Then select the Backup option and backup ALL COMS for Windows data to a media of your choice that you can take to the new computer. Notice you can backup to an A drive, B drive, or even to a stick or USB drive. Most computers do NOT allow you to directly save the file to a CD, but you could save the file to your desktop then using your CD burning software you could burn that file to your CD. The name of the backup file is usually titled OurData by default.

On the new computer, install the COMS program from either the CD, or the two downloads available on this forum. Once installed, start the COMS program and  pull down the Tools menu and select the Maintenance option. Then select the Backup option and then Restore ALL COMS for Windows data from the file (OurData) or media you brought from the other computer where you made the backup from.

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Windows 8 and Windows 7 and Vista Special Installation Issues

Vista is quickly being replaced by Windows 7, which should be a much better OS system from Microsoft. It could be many years before Windows 8 replaces Windows 7 (although Microsoft will mostly likely release a major upgrade to Windows 8 by the end of year 2013 to make it look and act more like Windows 7).

Windows 7, Windows 8, and Vista kind of want to control your computer in many ways. Sometimes you can't even find a file or folder you created as they have been virtualized into another place.  An example of this is the data folder that the COMS for Windows program uses: it is titled C:\ComsData and notice it is located off the root directory of drive C:\ (this is just an example, it would be in a different directory on a network). We place this folder here so that you (the end user) know where all your important data is, and also in case you should ever need to call a tech person at our company for additional help.  On some Vista or Windows 7 and Windows 8  computers (notice  some but not all), you might see this folder off the C:\ drive, but in reality Vista or Windows 7 or 8 has made a duplicate copy somewhere and you might not be aware of its location. You can see what the issue is here, as most churches do not have professional computer support staff. As a fact, most just use volunteer help or the Pastor or secretary is the only computer person. In this situation, all prior versions of Windows were far easier to use because of the hidden files and folders. Much of this is controlled by what is called a UAC setting (this stands for User Account Control).

However, there is a way to make both Windows 7, Windows 8,  and Vista act more like Windows XP in this situation, and that is turning the UAC setting off.

A handful of churches have been required to turn off the UAC in order for the COMS for Windows (as well as many many other programs) to run correctly. This is one of the issues that makes Vista in particular so difficult at times for many people (why do only some computers require this and others do not). We at Specialty Software always turn off the UAC as we have many other programs that did require it to be turned off before they would install.

Windows 7, Windows 8, and Vista allow you to turn off the UAC which then allows our software and other software to create its own file paths like prior version of Windows. Turning off the UAC is what is explained below. However, the choice as to turn it off is up to you. We have found our computers much more responsive without as many annoying questions with the UAC turned off.  The following section explains how to turn off the UAC for Windows 7 and Windows 8, and there is also an additional section below for Vista.

1- Attention Windows 7 and Windows 8 users: to turn off the UAC,  type UAC in the search box and then press the little magnifying glass (see step 2 for help in locating your search box).

2a- for Windows 7 the search box is found right above the Start button.

2b- for Windows 8, the search box is found in a number of places depending on how your Windows 8 computer is setup - so you will have to look for the search box. As a Window 8 user, you are looking for the Settings search box!!!! This is NOT obvious. You will have to look for it. You might have to select the option Settings before you type in the search box or you will not find what is needed as explained in step 3.

3- one of the first items returned by the search will be a selection titled something like Change User Account Control settings.  Click on this selection and a dialog will appear titled something like User Account Control Settings.

4- scroll the slider on the left all the way down to the bottom so that Never Notify is selected.

5- press the OK button, and your computer will require a restart.

6-turning off the UAC will allow you to have more control over your folders and their placement so you will know where your data is actually located (more similar to the way Windows XP was designed).

7. Windows 8 special note: Microsoft is being forced by the market place to modify Windows 8 to have more of a look of Windows 7 and they have announced there will be a Windows 8.1 which we believe will bring back the Windows Start button that every version of Windows has had since 1995. At that point, we expect you to be able to Turn off the UAC just like as explained in the Windows 7 instructions above. We expect Windows 8.1 to be released by the end of year 2013.

8- This is the end of special instructions for Windows 7 and Windows 8 Users.

 

1- Attention Vista users: to turn off the UAC, press the Start button and select Control Panel.

2- type UAC in the search box and then press the little magnifying glass.

3- one of the first items returned by the search will be User Accounts – Turn User Account Control (UAC) on or off.

4- click on Turn User Account Control (UAC) on or off.

5- uncheck the Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer.

6- press the OK button, and your computer will require a restart.

7- if you don't know how to find and open your control panel, you could also click on your Desktop and press the F1 function key. Help will appear, and you can type turn off UAC in the help search box, and press the enter key. At that point, you can find in the list how to turn off the UAC and more information about it.

8- This is the end of special instructions for Vista Users.

 

 

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